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Should religious schools be allowed?
Topic Started: Jan 22 2018, 09:10 PM (1,341 Views)
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No really. I'm against any sort of religious school. Schools need to be kept secular.

Religion is something that needs to be done outside of school.
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Religious schools still have to follow the set curriculum. They are just adding there own religious component to it everything else is the same or close to it.

Also for people saying you can do and learn that stuff at home. Honestly you really can't not in today's society. It's very hard. You have to be pretty dedicated for your child to be able to do so.

All in all every side these days has pros and cons it seems and whatever happens no one will be happy. But religious schools should not be abolished it would go against the constitution.
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Jan 23 2018, 11:12 PM
They shouldn't be allowed at all. Religious Schools are basically brainwashing tools.
Let's be honest, most schools try to brainwash students.
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Jan 27 2018, 06:54 PM
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Jan 23 2018, 11:12 PM
They shouldn't be allowed at all. Religious Schools are basically brainwashing tools.
Let's be honest, most schools try to brainwash students.
Try to elaborate when saying these things.
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I don't see why not. I agree that public schools should remain secular, but if one wishes to privately educate their children via home schooling or a private school that shares their religious values, I wholly support that.
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Lord Yamcha
Jan 27 2018, 06:54 PM
Yu Narukami
Jan 23 2018, 11:12 PM
They shouldn't be allowed at all. Religious Schools are basically brainwashing tools.
Let's be honest, most schools try to brainwash students.
You could argue that but I'm not sad that I was brainwashed in to learning math or to think about proper wording.

Typically a conventional school teaches you things that are actually useful, a religious school may teach you those things as well but with the added caveat of "Oh yeah, everyone who does [insert belief] is evil and you should condemn them to [insert religions version of hell]"

Conventional schools don't really teach you anything bad, religious schools can and that shouldn't be allowed.
Plus even if you just consider things like abstinence and a lack of education on dirty evil premarital sex, it's adding to existing problems.


What benefit is there, really? It pretty much only appeases parents who want their children boxed in to their particular view on the world, which is not always bad but it definitely can be.
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Jan 22 2018, 09:10 PM
There was something on BBC about the integration (or rather, the failed integration) of cultures in the UK, namely Muslims and white Brits. That's a whole other debate, but what came up while I was talking about it with someone was how it needs to start at school level. Religious schools only serve to further segregate as Muslim families will gravitate towards Islamic schools, or away from Church of England and Catholic schools. I feel like the abolishing of religious schools would go a long way to solving integration issues in the country.

Aside from that, I also just don't feel like school should be a place for religion anyway. Sure, kids should be taught about the various religions that they will come across in the world, but it should not be geared towards one. They should teach, not preach. Schools should be a neutral ground that isn't ruled by cultural, religious, or any other divide.
stop being racist agaisnt people with different culture(muslims) than you.if they want to keep their own culture they can and by adopting the british values they will erase their own culture.as long as we learn to respect others we should all be fine they will automatically integrate themself if they want .they don't have to.
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Jan 22 2018, 09:10 PM
There was something on BBC about the integration (or rather, the failed integration) of cultures in the UK, namely Muslims and white Brits. That's a whole other debate, but what came up while I was talking about it with someone was how it needs to start at school level. Religious schools only serve to further segregate as Muslim families will gravitate towards Islamic schools, or away from Church of England and Catholic schools. I feel like the abolishing of religious schools would go a long way to solving integration issues in the country.

Aside from that, I also just don't feel like school should be a place for religion anyway. Sure, kids should be taught about the various religions that they will come across in the world, but it should not be geared towards one. They should teach, not preach. Schools should be a neutral ground that isn't ruled by cultural, religious, or any other divide.
stop being racist agaisnt people with different culture(muslims) than you.if they want to keep their own culture they can and by adopting the british values they will erase their own culture.as long as we learn to respect others we should all be fine they will automatically integrate themself if they want .they don't have to.
They don't have to?
Yes, they do.
They don't have to change their religion, no one is arguing that. But certain beliefs held in Muslim countries are not compatible with western culture. If you wish to live in a western society, you should adapt yourself to properly fit in to that society.
Same thing if Western people want to move to the Middle East they'll have to abide by Sharia law.

Also calling that post racist is just laughable. You have no idea what racism means.
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Jan 22 2018, 09:10 PM
There was something on BBC about the integration (or rather, the failed integration) of cultures in the UK, namely Muslims and white Brits. That's a whole other debate, but what came up while I was talking about it with someone was how it needs to start at school level. Religious schools only serve to further segregate as Muslim families will gravitate towards Islamic schools, or away from Church of England and Catholic schools. I feel like the abolishing of religious schools would go a long way to solving integration issues in the country.

Aside from that, I also just don't feel like school should be a place for religion anyway. Sure, kids should be taught about the various religions that they will come across in the world, but it should not be geared towards one. They should teach, not preach. Schools should be a neutral ground that isn't ruled by cultural, religious, or any other divide.
stop being racist agaisnt people with different culture(muslims) than you.if they want to keep their own culture they can and by adopting the british values they will erase their own culture.as long as we learn to respect others we should all be fine they will automatically integrate themself if they want .they don't have to.
What, how was he racist?
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Mar 1 2018, 01:35 PM
jason vorhees
Feb 8 2018, 05:48 AM
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Jan 22 2018, 09:10 PM
There was something on BBC about the integration (or rather, the failed integration) of cultures in the UK, namely Muslims and white Brits. That's a whole other debate, but what came up while I was talking about it with someone was how it needs to start at school level. Religious schools only serve to further segregate as Muslim families will gravitate towards Islamic schools, or away from Church of England and Catholic schools. I feel like the abolishing of religious schools would go a long way to solving integration issues in the country.

Aside from that, I also just don't feel like school should be a place for religion anyway. Sure, kids should be taught about the various religions that they will come across in the world, but it should not be geared towards one. They should teach, not preach. Schools should be a neutral ground that isn't ruled by cultural, religious, or any other divide.
stop being racist agaisnt people with different culture(muslims) than you.if they want to keep their own culture they can and by adopting the british values they will erase their own culture.as long as we learn to respect others we should all be fine they will automatically integrate themself if they want .they don't have to.
They don't have to?
Yes, they do.
They don't have to change their religion, no one is arguing that. But certain beliefs held in Muslim countries are not compatible with western culture. If you wish to live in a western society, you should adapt yourself to properly fit in to that society.
Same thing if Western people want to move to the Middle East they'll have to abide by Sharia law.

Also calling that post racist is just laughable. You have no idea what racism means.
i thought you meant they have to change the way they dress like they no longer wear the head covering which would be racist if you were mentioning that
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Mar 1 2018, 01:35 PM
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Feb 8 2018, 05:48 AM
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Jan 22 2018, 09:10 PM
There was something on BBC about the integration (or rather, the failed integration) of cultures in the UK, namely Muslims and white Brits. That's a whole other debate, but what came up while I was talking about it with someone was how it needs to start at school level. Religious schools only serve to further segregate as Muslim families will gravitate towards Islamic schools, or away from Church of England and Catholic schools. I feel like the abolishing of religious schools would go a long way to solving integration issues in the country.

Aside from that, I also just don't feel like school should be a place for religion anyway. Sure, kids should be taught about the various religions that they will come across in the world, but it should not be geared towards one. They should teach, not preach. Schools should be a neutral ground that isn't ruled by cultural, religious, or any other divide.
stop being racist agaisnt people with different culture(muslims) than you.if they want to keep their own culture they can and by adopting the british values they will erase their own culture.as long as we learn to respect others we should all be fine they will automatically integrate themself if they want .they don't have to.
They don't have to?
Yes, they do.
They don't have to change their religion, no one is arguing that. But certain beliefs held in Muslim countries are not compatible with western culture. If you wish to live in a western society, you should adapt yourself to properly fit in to that society.
Same thing if Western people want to move to the Middle East they'll have to abide by Sharia law.

Also calling that post racist is just laughable. You have no idea what racism means.
i thought you meant they have to change the way they dress like they no longer wear the head covering which would be racist if you were mentioning that
Well he never said that so no reason to assume.

Also you can still argue that the niqab and burqa are symbols of female oppression. oppression based on sex is not something that is compatible with western society and I can very much argue that they should stop that without being racist.
I could argue that allowing such garments would be sexist, which is another thing that doesn't fit in our culture.
Arguing people should change the way they dress if their clothes are a symbol to oppression is not racism. I'm not discriminating them based on race. I'm not saying they're inferior because of their religion. I'm saying their believes about sex and gender do not fit in our society of equality, freedom and tolerance. That is not racism.
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YusukeReborn
Jan 23 2018, 11:13 PM
No really. I'm against any sort of religious school. Schools need to be kept secular.

Religion is something that needs to be done outside of school.
But why are you against it? If it's not happening directly to you or your children and it's not directly affecting you in any way, what is your argument?
If it's your opinion, you should give reason to why you hold such. Hopefully we don't hold opinions with no backing.
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Private schools, yes. Public schools, no.
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